Comments on: Making the Problem go Away Is NOT Improvement https://www.allaboutlean.com/problem-solving-vs-improvement/ Organize your Industry! Sat, 22 Apr 2023 13:03:13 +0000 hourly 1 By: Andrey Abutin https://www.allaboutlean.com/problem-solving-vs-improvement/#comment-133964 Sat, 22 Apr 2023 13:03:13 +0000 https://www.allaboutlean.com/?p=30260#comment-133964 Not to sound overly pedantic, but a title along the lines of “Constant fire fighting is not improvement” sounds much more on point.

And yes, that’s exactly what goes on in a lot of companies and shop floors. Fires get put out just enough to stop the flames, but still smolder underneath when the fire fighters run off to put out a different fire somewhere else.

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By: Christoph Roser https://www.allaboutlean.com/problem-solving-vs-improvement/#comment-133620 Wed, 19 Apr 2023 19:58:52 +0000 https://www.allaboutlean.com/?p=30260#comment-133620 Hello all, and many thanks for your feedback. You are right, and I used the word Problem Solving incorrectly. My apologies, and and also my thanks for the feedback. I have reworded the post, and hopefully cleared up the misused word. Cheers!
Chris.

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By: Jeremy Melani https://www.allaboutlean.com/problem-solving-vs-improvement/#comment-133609 Wed, 19 Apr 2023 19:06:37 +0000 https://www.allaboutlean.com/?p=30260#comment-133609 This article conflates problem solving with correction or immediate action (correcting deficiencies), which unfortunately is typically the only way reactive organizations deal with problems. This is just the first step is solving the problem.

I understand the overall point the author is trying to make but this is a perfect example of a sophomoric approach made overly complicated through the use of non-standard definitions. If we accept that a problem is simply the gap between current state and desired future state, then solving the problem (when does correctly) can and does create improvement; the definition of Kaizen (Kai= Change, Zen= for good; i.e positive change).

While I agree that there is a breakdown in many organizations with their approach to make lasting improvements, I would argue that, like this article, it is because they do not properly understand or define their problems.

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By: Andrey Abutin https://www.allaboutlean.com/problem-solving-vs-improvement/#comment-133008 Fri, 14 Apr 2023 17:21:25 +0000 https://www.allaboutlean.com/?p=30260#comment-133008 The reality is, most of the time all of the easy fixes were already identified and done a while ago. More often than not, you will be dealing with known problems and known root causes. But fixing the root cause for good is prohibitive for a number of reasons, while much more reasonable workarounds exist.

A while ago I watched a documentary about a phosgene shed accident at a DuPont plant where a worker was killed when a hose connected to a tank ruptured. Those hoses had a very limited service life and were known to erode due to chemical interactions.
A proposal was floated to build a chemical proof enclosure to the tune of millions of dollars. Another proposal was to simply replace all of those hoses every single month regardless of condition. After the accident investigation was done, they found that the failed hose was in place for a full seven months before failure.

In my opinion, the second approach was a perfectly reasonable solution. In retrospect, the audit process to positively ensure none of the hoses were over a month old didn’t exist or was badly broken.

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By: Leandro Barreda https://www.allaboutlean.com/problem-solving-vs-improvement/#comment-132969 Fri, 14 Apr 2023 10:14:45 +0000 https://www.allaboutlean.com/?p=30260#comment-132969 I had a colleage who solved problems like nobody else, a device didn’t work because a belt was slipping, he simply applied “powdered milk”…yes, as you’ve read. At the time he was the hero of the day, everyone applauded him, for thinking out of the box, only after a few hours and the device working, when the management had already left … the problem appeared again.
Continuous improvement did not exist for him, only problem solving.
So… yes…. Problem Solving is NOT Improvement.

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By: Chris Morrell https://www.allaboutlean.com/problem-solving-vs-improvement/#comment-132736 Wed, 12 Apr 2023 16:33:13 +0000 https://www.allaboutlean.com/?p=30260#comment-132736 Sorry to so simply destroy your whole argument… but “problem solving” by it’s name implies that the problem was SOLVED!

True problem-solving is an Intercal part of continuous improvement. The engagement of people in the problem-solving process is how you improve and move the organization forward narrowing variation and improving quality and efficiency. Companies fail with improvement And with six sigma another methodologies because they fail to do good root cause analysis.

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By: Israel avelar https://www.allaboutlean.com/problem-solving-vs-improvement/#comment-132613 Tue, 11 Apr 2023 17:58:06 +0000 https://www.allaboutlean.com/?p=30260#comment-132613 From your current situation to the desire one, most of the time there is an unclear path where you have to eliminate problems and obstacles, to me that’s pure continuous improvement.
Fix the problem and go away without returning makes hard the CI, in this case I am agreed.

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By: Enis Iplikci https://www.allaboutlean.com/problem-solving-vs-improvement/#comment-132601 Tue, 11 Apr 2023 17:00:16 +0000 https://www.allaboutlean.com/?p=30260#comment-132601 This is like an AI generated article. Problem solving does not necessarily mean addresing the symptoms only. You are confusing audience with your hodge-podge definitions and shallow recommendations.

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